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- Date: Sat, 18 Jun 94 22:12 MET DST
- From: chris@buran.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Christian Nieber)
- To: gem-list@world.std.com
- Subject: Re: Digested Replies
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-
- Hi Mike,
-
- > > Ctrl-A = Deselect marked (all), i.e. "Abandon" selection
- > > Shift-Ctrl-A = Select all
- > I support this method. I think T. Miller also supports it. That makes
- > three. Anyone else?
-
- As has been pointed out, the risk of data loss can be avoided. But even if
- there were something to this, changing shortcuts that are used by virtually
- every program on the ATARI and even on other platforms is simply out of the
- question. Most programmers just won't do it. Also remember that many app-
- lications on the ATARI are no longer supported, but still used, so dramatic
- changes like this will probably end with 50% of the used applications using
- the old way, the other 50% the new way. Don't do that. This also applies to
- CONTRL-U. An existing well-established standard, even if not perfectly
- designed, is better than different competing standards.
-
-
- Andre,
-
- > > > CTRL I - Show Info
- > > > In text oriented applications I prefer CTRL-I italic
- >Hmm, how about suggesting the use of Alt-I, Alt-B, Alt-U, etc for Italic,
- >Bold, Underline etc. That way, application-specific things like this won't
- >get in the way of general stuff.
-
- I suggested that not only because of papyrus, but because I'm used to it
- from the NeXT. Besides I see no problem with apps using the more special
- shortcuts for functions that don't apply to them for something else (see
- NeXT Guidelines)
-
- > > > In Dialog Boxes
- > > > ---------------
- > > > Undo - Cancel, Abort, etc...
- > > Problematic when applications use modeless dialogs. Does Undo mean
- > > "undo the last thing I did to my document" or "Cancel the dialog"?
- >
- > Depends on whether the dialog window is currenty topped, I guess. Undo
- > should always operate on the currently topped window, using whatever
- > operation is appropriate for that window.
-
- In practically all GUI apps I have seen Undo (while not in a modal dialog)
- takes back the last change done to a document, even if one has switched to
- a different window. This is also what Apple's Human Interface Guidelines
- say. I think it's dangerous to make it have a different meaning depending
- on wheter a dialog is topped or not. It doesn't affect the meaning of any
- other menu commands except 'close window'.
-
- Christian (R.O.M. logicware)
-